A Nice Day . . . Up In Flames

My girl and I had a really nice day.  We got up late, played with our guinea pigs, and just cuddled around the house most of the morning.  Later, we went shopping at Target, had an uneventful but tasty lunch at Mickey D’s, hit a thrift store, and did our major grocery pickup for the month.  We decided that we would go home, drop off the food, and then walk to the Valley Fair Mall, just for the fun and exercise of it.

We got there about 8:30 in the evening, and I hit the video game store while she went into Hot Topic.  After trading some old games I never play anymore for a Half Life 2 game package with a bunch of other titles on the disc as well, I was summoned over to Hot Topic because my sweetie found the coolest shirt EVER.

It was a black t-shirt with a Superman “S’ logo made of red velvet.  I loved it immediately, and we were soon married at the cash register for $21 and change.  I almost never like paying that much for a simple t-shirt – but it’s Superman, and not one of you people out there can blame me.  If you do, I’ll shoot you in the face.  Just kidding… sort of.

Anyways, the mall was closing, so we started to walk back to our apartment.  She was hungry, and had been jonesing for some Huevos Rancheros from Flames Coffee Shop on Winchester ever since the previous day.  So, since it was close to the mall, and I wanted to have this really tasty and huge fruit smoothie they make at Flames, i said we she eat there, instead of going home to make some flimsy cheese and pastrami toasties.

We were dressed in jeans, and each had on some clean, respectable sweatshirts.  Neither of us had boogers in our noses, or giant flesh eating bacterial sores oozing blood and puss, but we were treated like lepers as soon as we walked in the front doors of Flames at about 9:25pm.  After a humiliating and degrading 15 minutes of discriminatory treatment, my girl said she had had enough, so we left.  Below is a copy and paste of the review I left on CitySearch and Yelp – two reviewing sites for consumers to share their experiences of different companies…

“My fiancee and I have been to Flames Coffee Shop on Winchester, and the location in Milpitas. We’ve enjoyed good food, and reasonably acceptable service – until tonight.

We walked in and immediately noticed the manager/supervisor give us a sour look. I wasn’t sure if she was just grumpy, or if she found some reason to look upon an Asian woman with a white handicapped man disfavorably. As we stood by the front counter waiting to be seated, many other (at least 6) customers were greeted and dealt with promptly and always with a smile. We continued to wait for even an acknowlegement, let alone some service. After about 5 minutes of being completely ignored, another employee came to the register near us. As he looked our way, the woman with the sour look leaned in to him and told him “Do not seat them at all.”

I was very offended and hurt by this, but said and did nothing inresponse – we just continued to wait politely and patiently. As time passed, it became painfully clear that we were being discriminated against for some unknown reason. We are both professional, quiet, extremely polite and respectable people in our late twenties and would NEVER present ourselves in a way that would give any business lawful reason not to serve us. Finally, after 15 minutes of being overtly ignored while many other customers were served, my fiancee had had enough and we left.

I, as a handicapped man, experience various types of discrimination from time to time, but never in my 30 years have had it at the hands of a customer-service oriented business, and never so blatantly obvious as it was tonight at the Flames Coffee Shop on Winchester. If we do not pursue this matter through an official boycott, or any other appropriate and deservedly immediate means,

I deeply hope that anyone who reads this will not give Flames any business, and spread the word about thier dreadfully inappropriate treatment of two highly respectable but disatisfied customers.”

 

I am considering offering this review up at every consumer review site I can find, and possibly figuring out a way to organize a boycott of Flames Coffee Shop.  I know I will just be ignored and blown off, like all other people in the world who speak up when they are wronged, but I feel that I have to do something.  It wouldn’t matter much to me if it was just a slight against me, but my love was with me, and to see her experience this type of horrible treatment makes me feel helpless and violated.

Damn them.  Damn Flames for this behavior.  My girl was upset, but let it roll off her back how she usually does in her own gracious, laid back way – but I am very different.  I can take someone spitting on me, but you spit on a loved one and I don’t let it go.  I’ll see you in hell, Flames!

And yes, I get the irony of that statement.

—- UPDATE —- UPDATE —- UPDATE —- UPDATE —- UPDATE —- UPDATE —- UPDATE —-

I have been trying not to stew about this all morning, but I failed.  So, I wrote letters to local tv stations and newspapers.  I don’t know what they would do, if anything at all, but I had to do something.  I will keep you all posted, if you want to hear what happens.

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  1. while this is incredibly, insanely horrible and i wish you the utmost success — i also recommend trying to get some ANSWERS, especially when suggesting something as brash as a boycott. i’m not saying people are justified for acting like that, but also, i’m the type to want them to be held accountable and explain…i like to at least TRY and figure out what the reasoning behind shit like this is before i go apeshit on a company.

  2. I think you should print out a copy and mail it to them with a note that says “Thanks to you, I’ve received over 3,200 (or some other rather large number) comments on this published review.”

    Payback’s a bitch.

  3. You should contact consumerist.com.
    I’m sorry you were treated this way.
    Please contact the store manager and the higher ups if you haven’t already.

  4. [...] reason to look upon an Asian woman with a white handicapped man disfavorably…. source: A Nice Day . . . Up In Flames, Not All Who Wander Are [...]

  5. The manager couldn’t have been more explicitly discriminatory. Still, I would have politely (but very assertively) complained right away. Face to face tends to resolve issues in a most efficient manner. I would have said something like “If you don’t seat me, I’m going to take this to the local newspaper. Just saying….”

  6. Thank you all for your replies, and all your great suggestions. I am going to notify the owner of the coffee shop that I am notifying newspapers and tv stations in the area, and that I already have 400 views of my blogpost about what happened. I’m not sure what I expect to gain from all this, I just know I want everyone I can possibly reach to hear what happened, and spread the word to even more people.

    Again, thank you all for your comments, and please… keep reading this blog!

  7. I’ve never been there. And *now* I never will. keep us updated!

  8. thats absolutely horrid.
    did you write to the manager of the shop to ask why they acted like arsebandits?

  9. If your area has a Better Business Bureau or a similar organization, you might try contacting them and reporting this business for discriminatory treatment. I’m not sure what the rules are for businesses, though I do know that some areas will have legal repercussions for these sorts of actions. That sort of behavior is totally unacceptable and I truly believed that people had gotten past that. I hope you get this resolved.

  10. I am very sorry to hear about this level of discrimination that you and your fiancee were put through. I don’t think you could get any more blatant than that manager was! My goodness!!

    First and foremost, I really think you ought to go back to Flames and demand an explanation. It was just WRONG the way that you were both treated. There is NO excuse for that kind of behavior!!! Second, I agree with everyone else in the suggestions they gave for the steps you should take. Also, I don’t know if this sort of thing can be reported to the Better Business Bureau, but if it can, I believe you ought to report it there.

    Good luck!

  11. That’s terrible. :( I hope your local tv and newpapers react to this.

  12. I don’t even know where I’d find a Flames if I wanted one, but it sounds from your post like it might be a chain, so I’d recommend contacting the higher-ups in the corporation. Get that woman fired, and justice will have been served.

  13. [...] this episode of “What’s Happenin’ ” I sent emails to the Flames Coffee Shop, all of which bounced back undeliverable.  That’s odd, you’d think the email link on [...]

  14. Thats so weird, I’ve been there with all different kinds of people and theyve always been great. You said you’d been there before too and were seated before, right? I’m not blaming you at all, but just out of curiosity, is there anything you did differently this time than on the previous occasions you were there?

  15. Sonya, I was wondering the same thing you were. We didn’t even get a chance to ‘do’ anything, though. We just walked in the door, smiled at the mean lady, and stood patiently waiting to be seated.

    And, yes, we have been there on other occasions and got relatively decent service. It was by different people, though. Someone who commented on this, pointed out that it was an overt act by two people, instead of one. The first was the mean faced manager, nad the second was the employee that listened to her, and did not seat us.

  16. I really want huevos rancheros now.

    Sucks. :(

  17. I wonder what crawled up their butts that day.

    I mean, we were served before. The people were different, but still…this is the bay area. I haven’t been discriminated against in a long time. It feels weird.

  18. [...] Boy was also extremely angry about [...]

  19. [...] fighting the power, Flames Coffee Shop, newspapers Since all the avenues of contact for reaching Flames Coffee Shop by email are blocked by the company’s inept web development department, or deliberately [...]

  20. [...] explained to her what happened on Saturday evening.  I was very calm, as friendly as possible, and tried to relate the incident [...]

  21. I go to the consumerist http://consumerist.com/ quite a bit, since you’re asking for those types of sites… the commenters (like me) can get pretty snarky at times, but it’s a cool site…

    I don’t understand though, how in the hell do you let 6 people get waited on without flipping out, without doing something…

    I don’t understand the phrase “we continued to wait for acknowledgment” … it just does not compute… I swear, for real. 30 seconds, that’s the limit. If I am standing at, or near, a counter waiting for attention, and workers seem to be ignoring me …. just about 30 seconds is what I’ll allow before I yell in the most obnoxious way possible…. “HELLO!? Yeah, You! I’d like to order. Can you not see me standing here?” If I didn’t get a quick enough response I’d likely say, “This is fucking bullshit!” And I’d slam out the door. 15 minutes? No. No.

    BUT, on a more serious note, is it possible that the Superman shirt you bought was actually infused with superpowers that somehow rendered you and your sweetie temporarily invisible? Is it possible that the Flames Coffee Shop is somehow run by supervillians who felt the power of your superman shirt and feared that you were an arch-enemy, an archnemisis perhaps? I think you should look into these possibilies further. Some things are not just coincidence. Better safe than sorry, right?

    :)

  22. you didnt reply to mee.
    anyway i read the update. i hope you get justice

  23. Sorry, Tally, I’ve gotten so many replies on this site and on LJ that I’m sure some of them got lost in my reading. Point it out to me, and I’ll read it again and respond :)


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